INTERVIEW: A Sitdown with Bobby Hitz of Hitz Boxing Promotions

INTERVIEW: A Sitdown with Bobby Hitz of Hitz Boxing Promotions

By Steven Weinberg | Contributing Writer and Photographer

Published: May 30, 2018

Hitz Boxing Mike Lee

SBW: I’m here with Bobby Hitz from Hitz Promotion ahead of his June 8, 2018 show at the Allstate Arena in Rosemont, IL (ed. Note: Rosemont is a northwest suburb of Chicago). We’re sitting in the patio of Carmine’s Steakhouse, part of the Rosebud family of restaurants, in the Rush and Division neighborhood. Thank you for meeting with me. 

You’ve been in the promotion game for 25 or 26 years?

BH: Thank you.  Yes, yes I have.

SBW: That’s a long time, do you remember your first show?

BH: Yes I do…When I first started promoting, I started with a couple of co-promotions with a guy here in the Chicago area. The very first time I went out on my own was at the Hyatt Regency Hotel in downtown Chicago. James Toney was the middleweight champion of the world and he came and did a non-title fight with Vincent Durham in the main event. I think that was the first event. I take that back, I’m getting everything crossed over because there was a show with Andrew Golota; Mike Garcia fought, but I can’t remember if that was the same show.

SBW: You promoted Golota when he was coming up?

BH: I did a lot of his fights when he was coming up, yes I did.

SBW: You seem to do a lot of shows in northwest Indiana at the casinos or in the Chicago suburbs, is that fair to say?

BH: Yes. I’ve done shows all over. I’ve done them downtown at the Bismark Hotel, as you said I’ve done them in Indiana and Elk Grove Village (ed. Note: a northwest Chicago suburb). To me, the Rosemont area is the best area for boxing around here. It brings out the crowds, it is centrally located, and it is a suburban town that all roads lead to it so it really works out for myself and especially the fans. We’re able to draw from the all the suburbs and it’s just easier to get to than downtown Chicago. I’ve had enough practice at it to figure out that that area is the one that works best.

SBW: So being in the northwest suburbs is a geographic thing?

BH: Well, you have to think about who follows boxing, the Hispanics, and the Eastern Europeans, and I have a nice flavor of Eastern European fighters. Rosemont is really located close to their neighborhoods so it is accessible to them.  

SBW: Do you find a difference between putting on a show in northwest Indiana versus putting a show on in the northwest Chicago suburbs? 

BH: Crowd wise, no. We were able to draw from Indiana and our Chicago fans followed us down there (to northwest Indiana). The Indiana commission was a dream to work with, and the casino setting really lent itself to the event. I called it the Las Vegas of the Midwest. I initiated staged tables with food and gambling. In the arena itself, we had blackjack tables around the ring. People could gamble and watch the fights. Nowhere else in the country – maybe in Monaco you might see that – but you’d never see that here in the U.S.

SBW: I think you’re different than a lot of promoters in that you have a fighting background yourself (ed. note: Hitz was 15-5 as a heavyweight.)

BH: I think I have a complete background, I have a Harvard education in the game of boxing because I’ve worked every aspect of this sport … of this business. I call it a business because I am a businessman in this sport. I’ve worked as a trainer, fighter, matchmaker, site coordinator . . . I’ve done all those things which really lends itself to putting a show together. The only thing I’ve never done is be a cut man. I’m afraid of blood. Especially if its mine (laughing). That’s a really select field and that’s something I wouldn’t really want to embark on – to make some guy look like Frankenstein if I was his cutman, so I’ll leave that to the professionals. As far as putting a show together, and running the whole aesthetics of it, I learned it from the ground up. 

Emmanuel Stewart, the great Emmanuel Stewart was the first guy to approach me.  We were in Atlantic City and James Toney and Gerald McClellan were fighting on the same card, we were at Merv Griffin’s Resorts International, and I remember Doug DeWitt was in the ring with Nigel Benn in a fucking war, and Manny and myself were there, and as we’re watching the fight he says “You know, I’ve been watching you, you have a knack for this business. I watch how you coordinate all of your fighters . . . “ Back then I’d have 20 airline tickets and hand them out to everyone at the (airline) gate, and coordinate their hotel rooms, and all that kind of stuff. And that’s a big part of what we do. It was a lot easier to travel back then. I’d check everyone in, go to the hotels, hand everyone their keys. .. So Manny says, “I’ve been watching how you operate, and when you’re done fighting, you should really consider staying in this business, maybe become a promoter or something.”  

SBW: So while you were fighting you were helping the promoters?

BH: Yeah, I was injured and I was helping Jackie Kallen, the famous Jackie Kallen. I was her first fighter.  I was in Detroit back then.  And one day at our gym this young fellow comes in who had maybe two pro fights, I didn’t know him from Adam. He comes up to me and says “can you talk to your manager about signing me? I need a manager. My manager just got killed so I don’t have anyone to manage me.” And that fighter was James Toney. So I helped, in two years time . . . He had had 28 fights in 24 months, something like that. So my job was to research all of the opponents and go back and tell Jackie about them, if they were any good. So as his (Toney’s) career developed, we’re on the road and I got to go to all these different towns see how things were done. Back then, Detroit was one of the great fight towns in the business. So I got to be around Emmanuel Stewart, and Tommy Hearns . . . The whole thing was my Harvard education. I’m in the gym with Tommy Hearns, a young Gerald McLellan, Michael Moorer just signed on with Kronk, you had Jimmy Paul making a comeback, Milton McCrory, Dennis Andries - former light heavyweight champion from London, Leon Spinks… All these greats just coming through the doors. These were the guys you read about in the magazines and I had every single boxing magazine you could buy. I saved them all, and that’s all I did was read about fighters and possible opponents . . .

SBW: Is that how you were able to research the fighters pre-YouTube?

BH: Man, there was no internet, there was no cell phone, there was nothing back then. So the only way you could build a fighter was to research their opponents through the magazines and a book called “Fight Facts” that came out once a year, so you had year old records… I got so good I could tell you a guy, where he came from, who his trainer was, how he was going to fight. I was really in tune to it all.

SBW: So it sounds like the transition from being a fighter to a promoter was relatively easy for you?

BH: I’m an old-school guy, I was taught that the way you learn is keep your head down and your mouth shut and just observe, and that’s what I did to learn.  

SBW: Are you a Detroit guy or a Chicago guy?

BH: I’m a Chicago guy, but I left here after I fought George Foreman and went to Detroit to finish up my career. The whole Foreman thing was a complete debacle. The fight was taken on four days’ notice and I knew I needed to get into a real situation.

SBW: How did you get into fighting originally?

BH: It’s just something I always wanted to do, I don’t know why. I remember way back when, I’m a kid of the 60s, later part of the 60s, I was 8 years old. I remember watching TV and seeing Muhammad Ali . . . in 1971 or 72, I remember being in the parking lot at recess at St. Matt’s school, literally getting into fights with guys who were going against Muhammad Ali. We wanted Ali and they wanted Frazier.  Me and my school chum would actually fight with these kids because they didn’t want Ali. I don’t know why, but I just always liked it (fighting).  

SBW: Did you start with the park district?

BH: Yeah, I did. When I was sophomore in high school, my uncle would always have a card game on Friday nights with a lot of the heavy hitters. I’d come to the house to pick up my cousin, and my uncle would stop playing cards and announce to everyone “Ladies and Gentlemen, introducing the heavyweight champion of the world, Bobby Hitz. . . “ And it just got me thinking. So when a gym opened up in my neighborhood I went. I remember when I was younger and we lived on the west side, I used to go by La Follette Park and watch the guys hitting the bags and stuff. At the time, all the killer fighters were there. Years later, the man who ran the program, Pat Lacossa became my chief trainer. So it’s kind of unique that I used to go down there as little kid and watch all these guys.

SBW: It sort of comes full circle

BH: Yeah, you just never know. Like I used to watch the Osmonds on the Ed Sullivan show, and years later I got to train Donnie Osmond one time. The Partridge Family became one of my favorite TV shows and I wound up training Danny Bonaduce. So it’s weird in life . . . The one thing in life I always wanted was Olivia Newton-John and I haven’t gotten her yet (laughing).  

SBW: The June 8th Show, at the Allstate Arena . . .

BH: Yeah, it’s great to be back out in Rosemont. We put three shows on out there last year. The mayor out there, Bradley Stephens has done a great job building the area up into an entertainment district. Our past shows were at the Dome, but when that wasn’t available we moved up the street to the Allstate Arena.  

SBW: Tell us about the show and who’s on the card.

BH: I was hoping you could tell me because I have no idea (laughing). Mike Lee is the main event, he’s ranked WBO #3 in the world and he’s fighting for the NABO Light Heavyweight Championship on this show, hopefully, he’ll move to number one if he wins. He’s fighting a really, really tough kid named Jose Hernandez out of Mexico via California; that’s going to be really good fight. The co-feature is the Olympic bronze medalist Tervel Pulev, right now he’s scheduled to fight Amando Aguliar.  Pulev is the younger brother of Kubrat Pulev. And In the opening fight, we’re going to have Chicagoan Tommy “White Lightning” Hughes.

SBW: So tell us about Mike Lee.

BH: Mike Lee, I gotta tell you, he’s a promoters dream. He’s got all the attributes that you look for in a guy. He’s good looking articulate, he can fight, great following, people love him, great backstory, and I’m lucky to be involved with him.  

SBW: If he’s currently #3 in the WBO, and you’re hoping he moves to #1, are you looking for him to fight (WBO Champion) Sergey Kovalev?

BH: We’re looking to have him fight for the world championship.  That’s his goal.  

SBW: For the fans out there that just know the promoters as the people with their names on the banner at the venue, tell us what the promoter does.

BH: Lose hair, risk all his money, lose sleep at night, argue with the commission, do everything in our powers to facilitate the fighters wishes (laughing).  Sometimes (the fighters) are uninformed of what we can actually do.   I’m out there trying to get sponsors, put fights together, making deals with the venues, a lot of its paperwork, making deals with the commission. I have a situation with the commission that’s in my estimation is completely absurd and ridiculous, and now I have to go to def com 10 to get the job done.

SBW: What role does the commission play in putting on a show?

BH: (laughing) Right now is not a good time for me to answer that question because I won’t say anything nice. 

SBW: The have to approve a match, right?

BH: Yes.  The way they’re supposed to approve a match is based on ability. They’re supposed make sure the abilities of the fighters match up – that’s what they should do. They should also be there for the sport and business of boxing. For me, if I was commissioner, I would bend over backwards to ensure the success of these events.

SBW: Are they simply saying fighter A and fighter B are of equal skill level or are they saying, “Hey, this venue doesn’t have enough fire exits, or this venue isn’t close enough to a hospital?”

BH: They do both, they’re involved in every aspect of a show. I’m basically at their mercy, the mercy of their old, antiquated laws. It’s really a dictatorship and not a democracy. I have very little say of what goes on in my business. If you ran a McDonald’s, you certainly have to pass the health code rules, but no one can tell you what secret sauce to use. The commission is telling promoters what secret sauce to use. We are completely regulated by the state and federal government. We are the only sport that falls under both of those jurisdictions.

SBW: On the night of a fight, the commission is solely responsible for the judges, correct?

BH: Oh yeah. They pick the judges, they pick the referees, they pick all that stuff.

SBW: Do the judges and referees come from a pool from the sanctioning bodies?

BH: No, they come from whoever is licensed in the jurisdiction where the fight is being put on.

SBW: As a promoter, what’s your relationship with the sanctioning bodies?

BH: I will send them a sanctioning request letter to put on fighter A with fighter B for a certain title, and that’s where my relationship begins and ends. I have to arrange the travel for the supervisor, pay the sanctioning fee, pay the inflated costs to the officials . . . I don’t get to pick the officials, I don’t get to be part of any of it. All I do is ask for a sanction and they either grant it or don’t grant it depending upon the matchup.

SBW: What purpose are the sanctioning bodies than from the promoters standpoint?

BH: Well, people like titles, fighters like titles. It creates an element of “championship boxing.” Listen, there are organizations popping up and giving guys who are 8-1 and who got knocked out dead in the last fight, giving guys 1-6, the opportunity to fight for a championship. That’s bullshit. I won’t touch those titles. I had a kid fight on one of my shows that I signed, that the commission gave me a hard time because he was 3-4, and fought an 11-0 guy for a championship. The commission was giving me a hard time because - saying they can’t make a fight because he had fought for a world title in his last fight. I’m like “in what world is that a world title?” I appreciate the endeavors of these new organizations, but you have to have some parameters. To me, as a promoter, I won’t touch those. If you’re not a legitimate 8 or 10 round fighter with double-digit wins . . . look, there’s these kids that have 7 wins and get these championships, and all of sudden they think they’re King Kong, and they’re uncontrollable. They got a trophy, they should relax! I think it creates a bad element and bad atmosphere. It hinders things, it doesn’t help.  

SBW: Not only are there too many regional organizations with regional belts, but it sounds like with the alphabet of major sanctioning organizations . . .

BH: Look, to me there’s the WBA, WBC, IBF, WBO, and IBO.  That’s what it is. If it is anything outside of that . . . There’s the USBA, NABA, NABF, NABO, USBO, those are all sister organizations. If it is anything outside of those which are all highly recognized stuff, it’s all good, it just doesn’t work for me. That’s my personal opinion. I get sanctioning bodies coming after me all day long to make their fights, but to me, it just has to make sense. It has to make sense to the public, it has to make sense to where the fighter is at in his career. I don’t want to do it just to do it because… you’ll create King Kong with some of these fighters because they’re really believe they earned their title after 6 fights. Give me a break – it’s crazy, just crazy. They should get a trophy, a gold star, and taken to Dairy Queen for a chocolate phosphate for that.

SBW: You’re showing your age by saying “phosphate” (laughing).

BH: Exactly (laughing)!

SBW: You mentioned earlier signing a fighter, for the fans that don’t really understand what the means, what does that do for a fighter?

BH: It means he has a home. It’s like joining a gang, like joining the mafia – once you get in, you can’t get out (laughing). What it means is you sign a guy and now he’s exclusive to you, and it’s my job to get him X amount of fights per year depending on what you agree to, it’s my job to pay him X amount of dollars minimum per bought depending on the level of where it’s at. It’s my job to move him from a zero to a hero. It’s my job to build him up, to create him, to make him a hometown sensation, a superstar, to get these guys a world title – that’s the goal.

SBW: Then obviously from a business standpoint you want to make sure he can put butts in the seats?

BH: You want to develop him into a draw, you hope you do that. See, the problem is there are too many fighter fans and not enough fight fans. So when fighter A gets done fighting, fighter A’s crowd leaves. To me, that’s a total modern day thing. When I was fighting, that never happened. People came to a show because they were fight fans and they watched the fights from start to finish. They may have come to see a particular guy, but they stayed for the whole show. So now, I have to realize who’s the biggest draw, who brought the most people . . .I have to lay my show out in accordance because I don’t want people to leave and I want them to see an up and coming guy so maybe they become his fan. It’s a whole process.

SBW: When you sign a guy, do you ever get involved in helping to pay for their training and things of that nature?

BH: That’s usually the role of the manager, that’s not my role. The manager is the guy that takes a percentage. The only guarantee I get is that I get to spend my money and hope he makes it . . .

SBW: And then you hope to make your money off the gate?

BH: I get it back off of whatever is negotiated.  If we get to a big fight I have to satisfy his contractual obligations, plus, if there’s anything left over I’ll get to make money. I’m the last guy to get paid. And everyone has this big misconception that the promoters have all this money, it’s not true, it’s not accurate, it’s false, and I resent it. It’s not fair.

SBW: You’re taking the risk?

BH: Well, everyone is taking the risk, but at the end of the day when I get a fighter telling me “well let me have an easy fight right now and then I’ll fight a tough fight the next time, I’m taking the risk of my reputation because no one is going to say “Joe blow had a shitty fight,” they’re going to say “Bobby Hitz puts on shitty shows.” So everything that happens trickles down to me. If something good happens, the fighter takes all the bows. If something bad happens it falls on me. I’m in a no-win situation. I have to wake up every day and go to work and most of the guys who fight for me hate me – I mean, think about that . . .

SBW: I’m a lawyer, I know what it means to be hated (laughing).

BH: I have thick skin, I’m used to rejection. At the end of the day, everything is honest and forthright, and if someone doesn’t get it, shame on them. They’ll get it when they’re 40 years old and say, “Bobby was right.” And that’s the key. A lot of time these fighters want to hear what they want to hear. They don’t want to hear the truth. And when you tell them the truth they get deeply offended. And if I’m known for anything it’s that that I’m a guy who tells it how it is. We don’t have time to bullshit. I don’t have time to hold your hand and babysit you. This is a real man’s business, and women, it’s a tough business, and only the strong survive. And the idea of bullshitting the public to survive doesn’t exist. You can’t do it. There’s too much information out there. The internet has basically ruined this business. Listen, I had a fighter one time who was like 10-0, and I tried to make a match for him, and every time I tried making a match for him, I had to go through 10 or 12 people before they accepted someone. They would start out saying they wanted to fight someone tough but they would only take a subpar guy because that’s who they actually wanted in the first place claiming they couldn’t get anyone else, so it was all bullshit. They actually didn’t take a fight one time because the manager heard a prospective opponent’s interview and said: “did you hear how that guy talks?” If it was a debate I may be a bit worried, but it’s a fight so everyone talks. I want to know “have you seen how the guy fights?”

SBW: So you think that social media has ruined things?

BH: Oh God, it’s ruined the business. It’s created a false sense of identity. The guys have oversold themselves and then they underperform in the ring which affects the perception of what’s going on. I tell all my guys, “keep it quiet, zip it up, fly under the radar, and we’ll sneak up on a guy and beat them.” But all these guys want to be out there and get the Facebook Championship Belt. To me, social media is completely horrible. To me, it’s good for promotion and all that, but you have to keep it line and do the right thing.

SBW: As a promoter, how do you find new fighters to promote?

BH: A lot of times the trainers and managers brings them to me. I’m not a jock sniffer, I’m not a guy who goes to the gym, I’m not making phone calls all day long trying to infiltrate fighters. To me, my track record and efforts speak for themselves. So if someone understands that, they’ll come to me. These newfangled promoters, where you can buy your spot on a show, and keep yourself out of harm’s way… that’s not the guy for me. I want the guy who wants to be a real fighter because I can’t promise you the other guy isn’t going to punch you in the face. I can’t make that promise. You have to be willing to say “I know I’m going to get hit” and I can’t prevent that from happening.

SBW: So the managers and trainers are coming to you and saying “look at this guy, maybe you can put him on a card”?

BH: Yeah, and I have guys I work with that have faith and confidence in me, and I have faith in confidence in them, and we work together and they bring their fighters to me because at the end of the day I’m going to build the guy up into something.

SBW:  Right now Los Angeles and Las Vegas are the centers of boxing. What’s the state of Chicago boxing? Do we still have guys here in Chicago that can make it to the national stage? We just had a local guy, Joshua Greer, who moved out to California to further his career.  

BH: I believe so. I believe if you have the product the people will come. It’s about becoming a draw and a household name.  And that’s what I do.  (Greer) may have fought here once or twice, and he’s a great exciting fighter, and I love watching him, I love everything about him, I love the kid, but I think you don’t have to leave Chicago to be successful. The fighters just think they have to.  If these fighters put their faith in Chicago and their fan base – I’m all about building a fan base. You can’t build a fan base when you’re somewhere else. But everyone has their own ideas on how it works, that just doesn’t work for me. To me, I’m a Chicago guy, I want to build a Chicago guy. My goal is to have a Chicago fighter fight for the world title here in Chicago – that’s my goal. Period. End of story.

SBW: Is Mike Lee the guy for that?

BH: He could be. I have Fres Oquendo that’s going to fight for the heavyweight championship of the world, now we have to go to Germany, the deal couldn’t get done in the U.S., the Germans didn’t want to come here, so we had to acquiesce and go there. If we could have made it happened here, that would have been my goal achieved.  

SBW: Who is Kendo going to be fighting?

BH: Manuel Charr. The WBA World Heavyweight Champion. It is supposed to be happening in September. 

SBW: Are you taking on a co-promotional role with that?

BH: Yeah, it’s our fighter. I’m partners with Square Ring Promotions for Oquendo, so we’ll be co-promoting it (with the Germans).  

SBW: How does co-promotions work?

BH: Very carefully (laughing). I can’t tell you all my secrets. 

SBW: Is it basically dividing up the initial investment?

BH: Listen, in the business of boxing, no two events are the same, and there are no secrets in boxing. Everyone knows everything. What makes my program unique is that it’s consistent and I have continuity. It works for me and my fan base. It may not be everyone’s cup of tea, but I have my thoughts and ideas

SBW: Getting back to June 8th and your show at the Allstate Arena, what are you going to be doing there that’s unique. You mentioned to me when we set up this interview that you have ringside tables and whatnot.

BH: Tables are part of what we normally do. We’re just going to put on a great event. We have Teddy Atlas and Barry Tompkins coming in to do the call. That alone is going to be great. We’re going to have a great night of boxing. Just being at the Allstate Arena is going to be unique, there hasn’t been a fight there in 11 years.  

SBW: How many fights are going to be on the card?

BH: 8 or 9 fights. Ticket prices are $100, $75, and $50.

SBW: Last couple of questions. What is your favorite thing about boxing?

BH: My favorite thing? Are you talking about my event or boxing overall?

SBW: Both.

BH: My event - my favorite thing is when the event is over, and I’m standing at the door thanking people for coming and people ask “when is the next fight, when can we come again?”  To me, that’s success.  My favorite thing about boxing is the comradery that it creates and the people that are in the sport. One of my favorite things is that I like to watch the making of a fighter. I like to watch a fighter develop from nothing into, like, look at Josh Greer. He’s made quite a name for himself.  I like watching the evolution of a fighter. And then if it’s a television broadcast I like watching the behind the scenes stuff with these fighters and where they come from. I like all that. It’s interesting to me. The fight itself is just window dressing, the rest of it is the meat and potatoes for me.

SBW: Are there any Chicago fighters right now that are up and coming that we should keep our eyes on?

BH: Yeah, Josh Greer, Mike Jimenez, Tommy “White Lightning” Hughes for sure. Gorja Slaveski is another guy that’s exciting.

SBW: Taking a step backward, you mentioned being in the northwest suburbs, how important is the ethnically based marketing in boxing?

BH: Very important. Think about it. Overseas and in those other countries, boxing is a mainstream sport. Whereas in the U.S. we’re like the redheaded stepchild. It is very important.  

SBW: Do you think with the rise of the UFC, TopRank being on ESPN, Golden Boy being on ESPN, the success of ShoBox on Showtime, that boxing is starting to gain prominence in the U.S. again?

BH: That’s a fallacy created by someone. If you look at year in and year out, the highest paid and highest revenue producing athlete has always been a boxer. So to me, how can that sport be dead if that’s the guy, you know what I mean? To me, comparing UFC to boxing is like comparing NASCAR to Formula 1. MMA and boxing are two entirely different sports.

SBW: What’s your least favorite thing about boxing?

BH: (laughing) (pause) Regrets, I have a few . . . (singing). It depends on the day. If you ask me today, it may be dealing with the commission. Tomorrow I’ll probably love it. It’s like saying “what do you love and hate about your wife,” know what I mean? (Laughing.)  

SBW: That’s not a fair question (laughing).

BH: Boxing is my mistress, so you have good days and you have bad days.

SBW: If there’s any one thing you could change about boxing, what would it be?

BH: (Laughing) More than one thing, more than one thing. You don’t have enough tape to record it. Bring back the old school protocols of respect. Nowadays, with the internet, guys will go after your fighters and try to steal your fighters. There was a time and place where if you walked into a gym and talked to another guy’s fighter, you’d get thrown out of the gym.  Now, everyone’s holding hands and singing kumbaya. The old school protocols don’t exist anymore. To me, the handshake has to mean something. The spoken word has to mean something. But you have other promoters that will come in and say “well, you don’t have a contract with the guy, so I can speak to him.” Well, what about the 10 fights I gave the guy and I put my effort into? I’m different, if I see a guy and the guy did the work, I’m going to respect him, contract or no contract because the paper is only as good as the guy who signs it. I’m going to give it my all to build a fighter up and see what we can do and other guys will try and capitalize on my techniques. Shame on the fighter, but more importantly, shame on the other promoter. It’s just a bad way to be.

SBW: Do you think everything is ok with judging, there’s always a controversy if someone’s scorecard is way off.

BH. Boxing is subjective. It’s like us sitting out here right now and all the girls walking by. You may be a leg man, I may be a face man, someone else may be a boob guy – everyone has their different likes. So in a fighter, everybody looks at him differently. Some may like a boxer, some may like a puncher, some may like a technician. I think it’s subjective, and subjectivity is only as good as your knowledge. I don’t really have an opinion. I keep myself so far removed from that so there can never be an air of impropriety. I keep away from that. But at the end of the day, if there’s bad judging, I get blamed for that even though I have nothing to do with it. I don’t pick them, I don’t appoint them, I have nothing to do with them. There’s a guy in Ohio that bashes the fuck out of me because of the Aaron Pryor Jr. v. Mike Jimenez decision, and it’s like, dude, what makes you think . . . I have nothing to do with it. Every once in a while its ok if the hometown fighter loses. It’s the checks and balances, it means we’re doing the right job. To me, if a guy can’t win the fight, I don’t care, I just want to put on a good show. Think about it, the difference between MMA and boxing, in boxing, if you have one or two loses, your career is over with. In MMA you’re still a main contender with five loses and you’re on television. Boxing isn’t treated the same way. We’re held to a higher scrutinization than any other sport. Think about it, in the NFL, you can be 9-7 and make the playoffs and win the Super Bowl. 9-7 in boxing, your career is done, you’re over with. Think about the scrutinization that goes on in boxing.

SBW: Any last words regarding June 8th?

BH: it’s going to be a great night of boxing, buy your tickets, come out and support it, I love these guys who say they support local boxing but always try to sneak into shows – you know who you are. Support these young kids in their endeavors, see tomorrow’s champions today. Remember boxing is better live.

SBW: Thank you very much.  

(Featured Photo: Hitz Boxing Promotions)










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